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	<title>Comments on: Campy Sucks!! (Part 2)</title>
	<link>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/</link>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-6701</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-6701</guid>
		<description>pingfa5@gmail.com</description>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-6700</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-6700</guid>
		<description>pie... email me when you get a chance.  I have a question about my campy records.

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pie&#8230; email me when you get a chance.  I have a question about my campy records.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin McMillian</title>
		<link>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-3583</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin McMillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-3583</guid>
		<description>Are you still pissed off that you can't afford Campagnolo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you still pissed off that you can&#8217;t afford Campagnolo?</p>
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		<title>By: paul mckinney</title>
		<link>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-3535</link>
		<dc:creator>paul mckinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-3535</guid>
		<description>pie, you ride too much. I love the "chunck!" when I downshift on my road bike so much I just switched out the (worn out) ultegra on the cross bike for campy. and I Love dropping down 4 cogs at time (BIG Chunck !) And Sorry, but shimano just wouldn't look right on the old Super Corsa. I let the wrench at LBS work on the stuff, I just ride it .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pie, you ride too much. I love the &#8220;chunck!&#8221; when I downshift on my road bike so much I just switched out the (worn out) ultegra on the cross bike for campy. and I Love dropping down 4 cogs at time (BIG Chunck !) And Sorry, but shimano just wouldn&#8217;t look right on the old Super Corsa. I let the wrench at LBS work on the stuff, I just ride it .</p>
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		<title>By: pie</title>
		<link>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-1714</link>
		<dc:creator>pie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-1714</guid>
		<description>I automatically replace my D springs when I replace my cables and housing. Ohauling the shifter takes 10 minutes and $8 in parts.  I have a 9 speed Campy group with close to 60 k miles on it.   It is finally showing some wear in the front and rear derailleurs and it's on its third outer ring and third set of derailleur pullies. It's been on 5 frames and 8 pairs of wheels. two of which have cracked and failed. I still have one of the wheelsets which by the way are Campagnolo Neucleons with over 30k on them which I retired for commuting the roads of San Jose, Ca. I had 2 dura ace groups and one ultegra  within that time on another bike and all had wore out.  The shifters went south 3 times and the shifter blades were not cheap after they stopped replacing them for free. I wore out the front and rear derailleur as well.  I did not get anywhere near the miles on the chains or chainrings. I simply got tired of devoting my valuable time having to adjust and repair Shimano. I went to a second Campy groupo on a second bike. It's now 6 years old with close to 10k on it and it's practically flawless and it is still on the same frame.  The D springs are a small price to pay when you get tired of shimano's shifter blades failing. It's very satisfying to be able to easily repair Campagnolo as well as returning it to it's original condition of operation.  To say the least I find Campagnolo refreshing to work on as well it outlasting any Shimano parts I have ever owned.  Anybody who complains about working on Campy is either not not reading the simple instructions that come with all Campy parts or they just plain unmechanically inclined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I automatically replace my D springs when I replace my cables and housing. Ohauling the shifter takes 10 minutes and $8 in parts.  I have a 9 speed Campy group with close to 60 k miles on it.   It is finally showing some wear in the front and rear derailleurs and it&#8217;s on its third outer ring and third set of derailleur pullies. It&#8217;s been on 5 frames and 8 pairs of wheels. two of which have cracked and failed. I still have one of the wheelsets which by the way are Campagnolo Neucleons with over 30k on them which I retired for commuting the roads of San Jose, Ca. I had 2 dura ace groups and one ultegra  within that time on another bike and all had wore out.  The shifters went south 3 times and the shifter blades were not cheap after they stopped replacing them for free. I wore out the front and rear derailleur as well.  I did not get anywhere near the miles on the chains or chainrings. I simply got tired of devoting my valuable time having to adjust and repair Shimano. I went to a second Campy groupo on a second bike. It&#8217;s now 6 years old with close to 10k on it and it&#8217;s practically flawless and it is still on the same frame.  The D springs are a small price to pay when you get tired of shimano&#8217;s shifter blades failing. It&#8217;s very satisfying to be able to easily repair Campagnolo as well as returning it to it&#8217;s original condition of operation.  To say the least I find Campagnolo refreshing to work on as well it outlasting any Shimano parts I have ever owned.  Anybody who complains about working on Campy is either not not reading the simple instructions that come with all Campy parts or they just plain unmechanically inclined.</p>
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		<title>By: otter</title>
		<link>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-1410</link>
		<dc:creator>otter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-1410</guid>
		<description>"pie wrote: 
When shimano wears out campy’s just starting to break in and then it lasts and lasts and lasts and….."

actually when campy starts to feel good it is worn as well.  it is about that time that the "d" springs need to be replaced.  they are simply worn flat from use. because they are worn is the reason it feels good...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;pie wrote:<br />
When shimano wears out campy’s just starting to break in and then it lasts and lasts and lasts and…..&#8221;</p>
<p>actually when campy starts to feel good it is worn as well.  it is about that time that the &#8220;d&#8221; springs need to be replaced.  they are simply worn flat from use. because they are worn is the reason it feels good&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pie</title>
		<link>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-1348</link>
		<dc:creator>pie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-1348</guid>
		<description>When shimano wears out campy's just starting to break in and then it lasts and lasts and lasts and.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When shimano wears out campy&#8217;s just starting to break in and then it lasts and lasts and lasts and&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-1310</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-1310</guid>
		<description>Good luck ever being able to service a mushy Shimano shifter, or getting a 34.9mm FD clamp to not leave stress marks on a 35.0mm seat tube.  Speaking of cassettes and lockrings, how about the .5mm steel spacer needed on most freehub bodies that results in loose cogs and incessant ghost shifting when not used?  Both systems have their quirks, but at the end of the day I'll take ergonomics, serviceability and attractive aesthetics over awkwardly shaped, ugly and disposable machinery any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck ever being able to service a mushy Shimano shifter, or getting a 34.9mm FD clamp to not leave stress marks on a 35.0mm seat tube.  Speaking of cassettes and lockrings, how about the .5mm steel spacer needed on most freehub bodies that results in loose cogs and incessant ghost shifting when not used?  Both systems have their quirks, but at the end of the day I&#8217;ll take ergonomics, serviceability and attractive aesthetics over awkwardly shaped, ugly and disposable machinery any day.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Campy Hater</title>
		<link>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-1139</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Campy Hater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-1139</guid>
		<description>I forgot to mention the lock ring scenario. It's the cherry on top. So, some cassettes come with a lock ring, some don't. There are two sizes. Some wheel manufacturers supply lock rings for campy cassette bodies, and some don't. It's easier to plan a wedding than it is to choreograph the lock ring scenario. And if you're lock-ringless you can order one. Do you care to guess the wholesale price of a Campy (not after-market) lockring?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention the lock ring scenario. It&#8217;s the cherry on top. So, some cassettes come with a lock ring, some don&#8217;t. There are two sizes. Some wheel manufacturers supply lock rings for campy cassette bodies, and some don&#8217;t. It&#8217;s easier to plan a wedding than it is to choreograph the lock ring scenario. And if you&#8217;re lock-ringless you can order one. Do you care to guess the wholesale price of a Campy (not after-market) lockring?</p>
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		<title>By: Smithers</title>
		<link>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-1133</link>
		<dc:creator>Smithers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2007/12/11/campy-sucks-part-2/#comment-1133</guid>
		<description>I've never had a problem with Campy since I made the switch in 1996. Stuff works great.

I guess you have to know what you are doing when you work on your bike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never had a problem with Campy since I made the switch in 1996. Stuff works great.</p>
<p>I guess you have to know what you are doing when you work on your bike.</p>
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