Comments on: Race Distance http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/ Minnesota Cycling News and Gossip Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:37:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Muyres http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2556 Muyres Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:22:15 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2556 Who dropped out? Who dropped out?

]]> By: Ian http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2389 Ian Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:19:22 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2389 Part of the road race is not just being aggressive. It comes also down to "who can last." It is an endurance event. If you want aggressive then keep hitting the crit. series. While I lived out west I noticed that the races were very long. Both 1/2 and collegiate. Coming back to the midwest I saw shorter distances, most noticeably in the collegiate races. The race at a national level I think the extended distance is very important to the development of the rider. If we are looking for 60 mile races then either lengthen some crits to Superweek length or find courses that keep you on the rivet the entire time. There used to be a Wisport race in Trempealeau, Wisconsin that was only 50 miles. However, in the 50 miles you were feeling each and every inch of it. Anyhow, endurance is a key factor in the road race scene. If we don't practice it here we won't have it anywhere else. Keep the lengths or even bring them up 10-15 miles. Part of the road race is not just being aggressive. It comes also down to “who can last.” It is an endurance event. If you want aggressive then keep hitting the crit. series. While I lived out west I noticed that the races were very long. Both 1/2 and collegiate. Coming back to the midwest I saw shorter distances, most noticeably in the collegiate races. The race at a national level I think the extended distance is very important to the development of the rider. If we are looking for 60 mile races then either lengthen some crits to Superweek length or find courses that keep you on the rivet the entire time. There used to be a Wisport race in Trempealeau, Wisconsin that was only 50 miles. However, in the 50 miles you were feeling each and every inch of it. Anyhow, endurance is a key factor in the road race scene. If we don’t practice it here we won’t have it anywhere else. Keep the lengths or even bring them up 10-15 miles.

]]> By: Rich http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2371 Rich Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:33:24 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2371 Yeah I dont do well in short crits either because like tone im not very fast. I think crits should all be 100km 75 km and 50 km for A B C. I do better when its long and everyone has to go slow. Yeah I dont do well in short crits either because like tone im not very fast. I think crits should all be 100km 75 km and 50 km for A B C. I do better when its long and everyone has to go slow.

]]> By: Rich http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2370 Rich Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:29:43 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2370 The State RR had the smallest field ever and that was a fast one. Maby 20 riders in front of me in that one. I do agree with tone though that short road races are like crits on the open road. Theres not even enough time to stop and pee in a cornfield and get DQ'd for indecent exposure.. The State RR had the smallest field ever and that was a fast one. Maby 20 riders in front of me in that one. I do agree with tone though that short road races are like crits on the open road. Theres not even enough time to stop and pee in a cornfield and get DQ’d for indecent exposure..

]]> By: Baba http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2368 Baba Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:00:01 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2368 I thought the refs had the authority to 'roll you over' when they thought the race too (pick one) non-competitive, hot, rainy, lightning, etc. They would take a lap out of our fields all the time. As for promoting, there is nothing better than a shortened race. Volunteers, liability, time, name it. I thought the refs had the authority to ‘roll you over’ when they thought the race too (pick one) non-competitive, hot, rainy, lightning, etc. They would take a lap out of our fields all the time. As for promoting, there is nothing better than a shortened race. Volunteers, liability, time, name it.

]]> By: timmer http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2366 timmer Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:48:23 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2366 speaking on behalf of 1/2 racers.. as field sizes increase I could see adding a lap to certain road races.. but if by chance you show up to a feild of less than 20 doing over 70 miles is a wasted effort on everyone's part. the course itself also has an influence on race distance as does the weather. Durand is a good example of a coure that races long.. sogn races cold. Avon (long course) races hot.. crits are fast no matter what but can be course dependent (like the capitol crit) so an hour max is fine.. more laps, less overall time required. time trials? bring on a century bee-atches speaking on behalf of 1/2 racers.. as field sizes increase I could see adding a lap to certain road races.. but if by chance you show up to a feild of less than 20 doing over 70 miles is a wasted effort on everyone’s part. the course itself also has an influence on race distance as does the weather. Durand is a good example of a coure that races long.. sogn races cold. Avon (long course) races hot.. crits are fast no matter what but can be course dependent (like the capitol crit) so an hour max is fine.. more laps, less overall time required. time trials? bring on a century bee-atches

]]> By: Trissel http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2361 Trissel Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:42:17 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2361 If you want lower the miles fine, but then you better have a course that offers some kind of challenge to it such as the Birchwood race did last year. If you want lower the miles fine, but then you better have a course that offers some kind of challenge to it such as the Birchwood race did last year.

]]> By: andrew rosenberg http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2359 andrew rosenberg Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:16:07 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2359 short race = criterium long race = road race fun race = time trial different strokes for different folks short race = criterium
long race = road race
fun race = time trial
different strokes for different folks

]]> By: skibby http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2355 skibby Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:29:02 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2355 per the USAC rulebook for championship races State Road Race Championships Cat 1-3: 120-205 km National RR Championships Men Cat 1: 160-225 km If you can't convert km to miles in your head then you've never watched the tour day frants per the USAC rulebook for championship races

State Road Race Championships Cat 1-3: 120-205 km
National RR Championships Men Cat 1: 160-225 km

If you can’t convert km to miles in your head then you’ve never watched the tour day frants

]]> By: Skibby http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2349 Skibby Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:46:06 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/02/03/race-distance/#comment-2349 Funny, I remember back when I first started reading the MCF message board, late 90's early 2000's when there was tons of whining that the 1-2 races were too short... Funny, I remember back when I first started reading the MCF message board, late 90’s early 2000’s when there was tons of whining that the 1-2 races were too short…

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