Comments on: Podcast #40 - Like, This One’s … Umm, Not Lame http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/ Minnesota Cycling News and Gossip Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:14:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Frye http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5783 Frye Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:01:22 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5783 Thanks for getting things back on track Dan. Failed to mention that he also did a lot of work to pull back the solo break that was off the front from lap 2. They/he should have given that rider the prime prize. Thanks for getting things back on track Dan.

Failed to mention that he also did a lot of work to pull back the solo break that was off the front from lap 2. They/he should have given that rider the prime prize.

]]> By: Berhow http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5781 Berhow Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:49:26 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5781 I'm a bit conflicted on the free lap issue. When I registered that morning they were behind in time already with the start of the juniors races. The registration table then informed me that all of the races were moving back to the original time of 15 minutes later. In fact while I was there they inked out the earlier times on the flier at the registration table and marked 15 minutes later on all of the start times. As I was warming up I kept looping by the course and noticed that the finishes were finishing earlier than what I thought they would. Having noticed this I wanted to make sure I got some warm up on the course and made sure I was there in plenty of time to get a few warm up laps in. So I can understand what happened, but on the same hand it is our responsibility as racers to make sure we are aware of what is going on. If it was a lap I probably would not have cared at all, but the officials letting him in after we had done 4 hard laps was an incorrect decision in my opinion. I definitely think it was bad form for him to take the prime. I’m a bit conflicted on the free lap issue. When I registered that morning they were behind in time already with the start of the juniors races. The registration table then informed me that all of the races were moving back to the original time of 15 minutes later. In fact while I was there they inked out the earlier times on the flier at the registration table and marked 15 minutes later on all of the start times.
As I was warming up I kept looping by the course and noticed that the finishes were finishing earlier than what I thought they would. Having noticed this I wanted to make sure I got some warm up on the course and made sure I was there in plenty of time to get a few warm up laps in.
So I can understand what happened, but on the same hand it is our responsibility as racers to make sure we are aware of what is going on. If it was a lap I probably would not have cared at all, but the officials letting him in after we had done 4 hard laps was an incorrect decision in my opinion. I definitely think it was bad form for him to take the prime.

]]> By: Tim Hayes http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5779 Tim Hayes Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:51:58 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5779 Pramann commenting on bikethrow.com? Wow, have we jumped the shark? :) Pramann is my favorite 50+ rider. It is because he is amazingly fast, despite what he says on this website! Pramann commenting on bikethrow.com? Wow, have we jumped the shark?

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Pramann is my favorite 50+ rider. It is because he is amazingly fast, despite what he says on this website!

]]> By: Frye http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5778 Frye Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:30:48 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5778 Wow, Pramann commented! We're mainstream now! BTW - I thoroughly enjoy racing with your sorry aging ass. Guess everyone thinks getting four free laps to start a crit is cool??? Wow, Pramann commented! We’re mainstream now! BTW - I thoroughly enjoy racing with your sorry aging ass.

Guess everyone thinks getting four free laps to start a crit is cool???

]]> By: Pramann http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5770 Pramann Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:18:42 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5770 Huh? Inserting a fresh perspective: Am pretty sure I'm fairly lame right now on a two wheeler, and have heard Mr. Scott F has unfortunate health anomalies. This would mean at least several of the nice ladies available in the W123 field likely could logically trounce our sorry, horrible, aging asses. At least mine. Thank Goodness they separated us. And Thank You promoters for a nice race. Did you know my dad graduated from St. Cloud Tech (which we raced around) in 1936? Cool, and Party On! Huh? Inserting a fresh perspective: Am pretty sure I’m fairly lame right now on a two wheeler, and have heard Mr. Scott F has unfortunate health anomalies. This would mean at least several of the nice ladies available in the W123 field likely could logically trounce our sorry, horrible, aging asses. At least mine. Thank Goodness they separated us. And Thank You promoters for a nice race. Did you know my dad graduated from St. Cloud Tech (which we raced around) in 1936? Cool, and Party On!

]]> By: Frye http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5769 Frye Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:28:48 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5769 Good points H-Wood. Strats, thanks for agreeing with Homme and I that Rookie is lazy. :) And here I thought "Let's Ask Homme" would get some comments. I'm glad this issue has drawn some attention and the candid feedback is appreciated. Good points H-Wood.

Strats, thanks for agreeing with Homme and I that Rookie is lazy. :)

And here I thought “Let’s Ask Homme” would get some comments. I’m glad this issue has drawn some attention and the candid feedback is appreciated.

]]> By: H-WooD http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5768 H-WooD Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:56:40 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5768 Womens Open sounds great! the ladies 4's was a good one ta watch, and I'm sure they'd love ta try a round with the top ladies. Next year fer the calander I think duling ROY races on the same weekend should not happenl, unless part of some togetherness type stage race thing, and There should not be conflict with MNSCS vs. ROY. It can't be as difficult as it sounds but then again? Womens Open sounds great! the ladies 4’s was a good one ta watch, and I’m sure they’d love ta try a round with the top ladies. Next year fer the calander I think duling ROY races on the same weekend should not happenl, unless part of some togetherness type stage race thing, and There should not be conflict with MNSCS vs. ROY. It can’t be as difficult as it sounds but then again?

]]> By: Strats http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5766 Strats Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:52:40 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5766 As usual, I agree with Frye and Homme. It was very unfortunate (and somewhat embarrassing from my standpoint) that only 6 women showed up for the 1/2/3 race after we put up a big stink to get our own race. I don't think there were any conflicting races. Although having a long road race (translates to - away from family for the entire day) the day before didn't help. The bottom line is that if we don't have more women show up, why should a promoter give us our own race? It would be one thing if St. Cloud was a fluke, but there have been low numbers for the past few races. The other unfortunate part about a field that size is that it made for a pretty boring race. One thing that could help a little in these situations is to have a separate women's Cat 4 race then have a Women's Open race (instead of a 1/2/3 race) - that way at least a few of the Cat 4's will jump in. What else can we do besides continue to encourage others to race? As usual, I agree with Frye and Homme. It was very unfortunate (and somewhat embarrassing from my standpoint) that only 6 women showed up for the 1/2/3 race after we put up a big stink to get our own race. I don’t think there were any conflicting races. Although having a long road race (translates to - away from family for the entire day) the day before didn’t help. The bottom line is that if we don’t have more women show up, why should a promoter give us our own race? It would be one thing if St. Cloud was a fluke, but there have been low numbers for the past few races. The other unfortunate part about a field that size is that it made for a pretty boring race. One thing that could help a little in these situations is to have a separate women’s Cat 4 race then have a Women’s Open race (instead of a 1/2/3 race) - that way at least a few of the Cat 4’s will jump in. What else can we do besides continue to encourage others to race?

]]> By: Frye http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5765 Frye Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:23:20 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5765 "Yes, you’re right Frye, riding with Scott Flanders and Pramann is absolutely horrible." Didn't realize I said that? Maybe if I play it backwards? “Yes, you’re right Frye, riding with Scott Flanders and Pramann is absolutely horrible.”

Didn’t realize I said that? Maybe if I play it backwards?

]]> By: Snide http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5764 Snide Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:16:15 +0000 http://www.bikethrow.com/i/2008/07/01/podcast-40-like-this-ones-umm-not-lame/#comment-5764 Yes, you're right Frye, riding with Scott Flanders and Pramann is absolutely horrible. Yes, you’re right Frye, riding with Scott Flanders and Pramann is absolutely horrible.

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